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[–] Acer-Red 3 points 25 points (+28|-3) ago 

True, and I don't use Windows, except for some of my games. And I wouldn't go online with Windows at all, except some of those games are MMOs. And I enjoy the games way too much to just not play them.

Oh and they run like crap in Wine.

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[–] Kookus 3 points 26 points (+29|-3) ago 

I made the same arguments, but I decided to give it a go anyway. Granted I've been doing Linux administration as a paying gig for years, but that only gets you so far; bottom line is that the systems have come a long way since the "you can't game on Linux" mentality first set in. Between native Steam games and what works flawlessly via PlayOnLinux (a WINE management tool), I've managed to get most of my current interests working with no trouble whatsoever -- and on a laptop, at that.

If you decide you want to try dropping the Windows habit, remember that you can always reach out to the community. There's practically no problem you can run across that somebody else hasn't also run across, and solved.

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[–] beavis 12 points 2 points (+14|-12) ago 

No pain, no gain. Unless you hit them with your wallet, expect to have more and worse spyware which people will still justify because of that game, or that cool software, or whatever. Work it out, find alternatives, get a real hobby, take up a sport, volunteer at your local soup kitchen, I'm sure you'll find a way to get by without your daily fix.

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[–] Girlwithswords 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Yep, I'm not giving up my games because Microsoft is being snoopy.

Maybe it is time to get a new laptop though, one that is only used for things I don't want snooped upon.

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[–] p0ssum [S] 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I don't but many in my family do. I do my best to keep them safe ;)

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[–] norman_rogerson 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

You fight a losing battle. Godspeed.

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[–] White_Raven 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

And that particular fix speaks way louder than using a piece of shit OS and trying to block blatant violations of constitutionally protected privacy.

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[–] U-CAN-TRUST-ME 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Thank you. Fuck Windows, the 7 telemetry updates were the last stray for me and I installed Linux on my last computer that was still running Windows. I regret not moving to Linux sooner. WTF was I thinking?

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[–] skidmark-steve 0 points 22 points (+22|-0) ago 

How long until Microsoft pushes out an automatic update that undoes this?

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[–] p0ssum [S] 1 points 23 points (+24|-1) ago 

They could try, but then Spybot could work around that as well right. Cat and mouse...

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[–] onegin 1 points 13 points (+14|-1) ago 

Still a good reason to start looking into other OS's, though. At some point it could become quite a handicap having to maintain an "off-the-grid" Windows install. Just depends on how long & hard of a fight MS puts up.

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[–] Cuckbot 1 points 15 points (+16|-1) ago 

Seems like it uses hosts files which are bypassed by Win10 telemetry

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[–] p0ssum [S] 3 points 21 points (+24|-3) ago 

What makes you think its a hosts file? They use hosts, but that's required to do the job. This is specifically designed to work on Windows 10. Throw wireshark on it to see if it works, I did, otherwise I wouldn't have posted it.

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[–] Cuckbot 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago  (edited ago)

I said it uses a hosts file not that its only a hosts file, which you seem to agree with. Its good if it it works, I'll try it myself in the next few days.

Edit: I got the hosts part from the forum link.

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[–] babajee 5 points 13 points (+18|-5) ago 

The name 'Spybot' isn't very great for a product that is supposed to stop spying

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[–] Acer-Red 2 points 15 points (+17|-2) ago 

This is true, but that doesn't mean @babajee isn't completely wrong. I've always said having a program that's supposed to help with removing and blocking spyware called "Spybot" seemed like a bad idea. Just like calling an anti-virus program "Virusbot" would seem like a bad idea. I know when I've told less knowledgeable people to use "Spybot" they have immediately (on more than one occasion), told me they don't want any spy stuff on their computer.

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[–] Eihwaz 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Unless spybot has change very recently (like, in a few months)...

It was an awesome tool, a few years ago. But in recent years, the TeaTimer has been known to cause more problems than it fixed. Most things Spybot finds is a smokescreen and completly useless (internet cookies, etc)

MBAM completly surpassed anything Spybot has ever done and has been the superior choice for a few years now

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[–] umilmi81 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Yeah, and Malwarebytes is also a pretty shitty name for an anti-malware package, but it's really good.

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[–] babajee 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

knew of malware bytes, not of Spybot.. have tried it, and its excellent... but still can't get myself to overcome the name. lols

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[–] ThisWeirdIndividual 2 points 11 points (+13|-2) ago 

Are we sure blocking all this stuff isn't going to cripple some (non undesirable) functionalities?

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[–] p0ssum [S] 2 points 26 points (+28|-2) ago 

No one I have installed this for has had any complaints. The Spybot folks are pretty good at what they do. I would trust them far more than I would any of these scripts that have been running around.

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[–] Cuckbot 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Agreed on that people trust scripts way too easily

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[–] Ravinous 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Yeah, I love the Spybot team. I've been using there anti ad-ware/spyware as a default install for almost a decade now. One of a few projects I don't mind donating to.

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[–] feistylemur 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Spybot is an oldie. I remember being a computer tech circa 2006 and using spybot a lot. I haven't been in the business of cleaning up malware in many years but It's good to hear they're still doing useful stuff.

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[–] ThisIsntMe123 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I both would and wouldn't trust said scripts. The scripts are open source, so someone could verify if they're safe. Doesn't mean anyone has. Spybot is basically the opposite, their goal is to block this stuff, but for all we know, Microsoft could let them do 99% of the blocking just to leave a backdoor. Can't check Spybot's source afaIk.

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[–] Diggit 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

In before Microsoft buys out Spybot.

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[–] RojoDiablo 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

So does a TINY registry change.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\DataCollection

If telemetry is enabled on your machine, there will be a key named "AllowTelemetry." **Update: it seems versions may or may not have this key already. Possibly due to a difference in updates or maybe just my pathetic memory.

If the DataCollection Key/'folder' doesn't exist, right click on the Windows label and select new -> key and name it exactly (case sensitive) DataCollection

Then inside the right pane, right click and choose New -> DWORD (32-bit) Value Name it (exactly) AllowTelemetry and verify it's set to 0 (should be 0 by default)**

Done.

This works on 7 and 8 as well if you've installed the optional updates already.

Then you'll be blocking the very same information Google and Apple collects on your app usage through the App/Play Stores, except those two won't allow you to turn it off.

Edit - there are a couple services that disabled as well:

  • Diagnostics Tracking Service

  • dmwappushsvc

Edit 2: Added info on creating the key. Note of course that this could always be modified by an update or possibly by the app store in the future.

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[–] p0ssum [S] 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Yeah, I can point my mom to an application to install and she's OK with that. I tell her to start fiddlin in the registry and start disabling services, she's not going to be happy. I didn't post this for the geeks...per se

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[–] Lag-wagon 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

You can script it...

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[–] RojoDiablo 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago  (edited ago)

I understand that, but my point is that this is still a simple 'fix' and doesn't require 'magic' or 3rd party software to handle it.

Also you could simply export a reg file for your mother so she can double-click it rather than installing software. And a powershell script to disable the services that requires no interaction.

I'm simply very, very tired of the incessant circle jerking about Win 10 privacy issues when there is still infinitely more control to turn this crap off in 10 compared to MS competitors (Linux excluded for obvious reasons). Should this require a registry change or services to be disabled through MMC? Hell no, MS should get a couple swift kicks to the balls for the way they've handled it, but while we're doling out fantasy punishments, Google and Apple should receive far larger amounts of pain for their own privacy invasions. The circle-jerking continually ignores this.

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[–] luddite 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I don't have this key either, but I very much won't take that as an all clear.

[Win7 Home Premium, no windows updates installed since May 2015.]

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[–] RojoDiablo 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

What version? I have only done this on Pro but my understanding was that it would exist in any Windows 10 install, but perhaps not with Enterprise by default.

What about the two services?

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[–] glassdragon 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Heh. It interferes with itself. I downloaded the anti-beacon program this article describes and immunized. That prevented regular Spybot from being able to update itself. I had to use the undo in anti-beacon to get Spybot itself working again. This is on Win7.

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[–] Quawonk 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Confirmed.

More work is needed on this program, I'm afraid.

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[–] glassdragon 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I updated Spybot itself to the latest version, that fixed it. Latest version of Spybot can get definition updates without a problem after immunizing with anti-beacon for me.

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[–] p0ssum [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I didn't see that problem, have you updated your spybot?

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[–] glassdragon 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Yes, after undoing the beacon immunization change. It was the only way to get spybot to update.

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