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[–] sir_andy_of_bad 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I agree. Linux isn't perfect, and as it shares a totally different OS lineage and design philosophy, it can seem intimidating to those who don't enjoy hobbying with PCs or work with them on a daily basis. I'm here to tell everyone, as somebody who installs windows hundreds of times a month, and Linux almost as often... Not every distribution of Linux is the same. The amazing thing to me however is how easy it has become for an inexperienced user to get into Linux. More often than not, I'll image a workstation with Linux and it will already include open-source drivers for everything out of the box, unlike windows that will require OS-specific drivers, specially on legacy hardware (good luck supporting anything more than 10 years old on Windows 10). Linux doesn't force me to update, I don't have to worry about my end-users downloading viruses and malware left- and right, and once you've used it for a while, it just fucking makes sense. As I stated before, it isnt perfect, nothing is. But I can make it as close to perfect as I want. And compared to Windows, well, there's just no comparison anymore. The only reason uptake of open-source networking and domain policy hasn't taken off yet is due to Microsofts incessant pandering to c-level executives and the various support contracts they sign their companies onto.

[–] skruf 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I want to share an upsetting situation when I worked as IT technician (fancy word for Professional Windows Re-installator). A customer wanted a computer for purely playing Counter Strike: Global Offensive. I told him that I can sell him this computer without windows and you can save some cash if he'd use Linux, because all Half-Life/CS games run really nice on Linux. He said, sure sounds great. So, I went about my business, and when the computer was done, he came to pick it up, but with a concern: His computer mouse (Razer) had this software to adjust accelleration/sensitivity and other shit. I told him that you can do that here and there. He hesistated because this was unknown... So he wanted his Windows because of that only particular reason. I wanted to shove the computer far up his asshole and tell him to fuck the hell off. But as a good samaritan with a fake smile I installed Windows... with some overcharge. This shit kinda upsets me even today, but not as much now...

[–] boggle247 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I've been using Linux off and on for 6 years. I hear a lot of people say "Linux just makes more sense" but it doesn't for me. It's still damn confusing why when I install one piece of software it can somehow break seemingly completely unrelated software. It's super frustrating and one of the reasons I keep going back to windows 7.

I don't want to troubleshoot my computer constantly, I want to do tasks like games or web browsing (yes somehow Firefox became broken from me installing some other package).

I REALLY want to like it, but it can be a real asshole sometimes.

[–] jewlie 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Gaming and work is the only reason I am still on Win10, my laptop is running linux mint.

It's really no where near as complicated as most on the net would tell you

At first yes, if you start adding repos, or mess around with WINE trying to get a certain program to work it is a pain in the ass. I love Linux, but to say it is not complicated is a complete outright lie that Linux buffs say because they know what to look for when a problem arises, as do I, but most people just want their software or games to work. I have switched a couple of my friends to Linux that just casually browse the web and play a game here and there. They wanted Windows back within a week. Take it as you will and get butthurt but until Linux gets more support, mainstream PC users are not going to go for it.

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[–] Mylon 4 points 1 points (+5|-4) ago  (edited ago)

I just tried to install Mint 19 today and the installer goes 99% of the way, then reports it failed to make the volume bootable. I don't have fucking time to troubleshoot stuff like this.

[–] kalgon 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago  (edited ago)

But you do have time for windows update fucking everything....

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[–] LordFriendZone 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Disable secure boot on bios.

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[–] SquarebobSpongebutt 2 points 1 points (+3|-2) ago 

It's really no where near as complicated as most on the net would tell you.

Caveat to this, if you have a problem and do not know your hardware on your machine then it can get complicated really fast. Video cards are the top cause of no GUI (nomodeset option in Grub, or a similar option, usually lets you get past that). Wifi cards based on Realtek are the biggest issue once you get to GUI. Other than that you usually have no problem at all. If you built the machine yourself then you should have little issue. If not, but you have the manufacturer and model and the ability to use search engines, you should still have no problem.

[–] sir_andy_of_bad 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

You also just described installing windows 10 on any pc older than 6 or 7 years.

[–] lanre 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

I've also had issues like this after installing new software packages. Sometimes things just break and it can be a nightmare figuring it out. Generally speedwise it's much

[–] carlip 2 points 1 points (+3|-2) ago 

L2CLI FAG

[–] captainstrange 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

video cards are the top cause of no GUI. Wifi cards based on Realtek are the biggest issue once you get to GUI

If I were microsoft these would be the things I target, providing funding to developers of 'open source' drivers to develop shitty versions for linux, and flood the net with them.

[–] Elbower_of_Quants 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

I run a home network with several pc's in a rural area with shit internet access. There isn't a word in the dictionary that defines the level of hatred and contempt I hold for Microsoft and their perpetual updates half of which don't install and have to be re-downloaded often several times to the detriment of my fucking bandwidth, time, and patience.

One gets well acquainted with the Microsoft management module in Microsoft to desperately grasp a smidgen of control of this monstrosity called Windows. The ill-worded plucky comments that accompany updates serves only to add to the exasperation. No, I don't give a fuck about how great your update is and I see nothing beneficial in the constant 'newness' because your products largely suck and quit fucking acting as I have all the goddamn time in the world to FUCKING not turn my fucking pc off just so you can install more Microsoft surveillance and bloat onto my systems, you Redmond turd.

So, what was the question again? Replacing Windows? Every single fucking day. One day I will leap.

[–] 13780779? 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

I used to be like you. Then one day i installed linux and i havent looked back. It's SO MUCH better. Some things in life you can only learn by doing. So do it

[–] TheAntiZealot 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

"mint" or another?

[–] Plavonica 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Get a cheap laptop and put linux mint on it. Fuck around with it and enjoy.

[–] Hand_of_Node 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I installed windows with bootcamp one time, because of some windows-only games, but the malware it attracted made me uninstall it. It's been garbage for almost 35 years now, and that's not about to change. As far as the people who use it, what can you say?

[–] badruns 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Windows LTSB is what I jumped to after Microsoft's failed updates bootlooped my machine. The fuckers.

[–] glennvtx 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Switched years ago.

[–] Jagon 2 points 4 points (+6|-2) ago 

I have, and then i realized theres a lot of things i just cant do on linux so i never switched.

[–] SquarebobSpongebutt 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

If you have a list of things I might be able to help you find alternatives. I still use Windows on my desktop due to the games I play not working on Linux (and just PITA difficulties in installing Linux on it due to hardware) but I have moved from closed source Windows only to open source and cross-platform programs as much as possible since i use mainly Linux on my laptop. I may have already found alternative to some things for you, other than games and the possibility that you have to have a very particular program no matter what.

[–] Rawrination 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

[–] Armpit_and_Ass 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I ran Linux exclusively from 2004-2010 - on both desktops and laptops. I tried every major distro and quite a few not-so-major ones: Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu, Suse, PCLOS, Slackware, Slax, Arch, Sabayon, Mint, and a couple others I can't remember. Know why I stopped?

  • I got sick of having to build my own sound drivers for out-of-the-box hardware from a major manufacturer every time I ran updates, just so the laptop speakers would turn off when I plugged my headphones in.
  • I got sick of having to manually compile my ethernet/wifi card drivers because the default wouldn't work in half the distros I tried. It was a run-of-the-mill broadcom, ffs.
  • I got sick of playing whack-a-mole with nvidia drivers crashing every Nth time (where N = a random number between 1 and 16) I booted my machine. Nothing beats trying to compile video drivers through ssh when your wifi keeps cutting out.
  • I got sick of having to cobble together drivers for the printer I had back then, an off-the-shelf Lexmark (yes, I know they're pieces of shit - still, it's what I had) that was listed as supported, but somehow never worked by default.
  • I got sick of seeing major bug reports get slid or shot down, while virtually unlimited resources were poured into spinning desktop cubes and windows that burned away when you closed them. (Beryl/Compiz was pretty damn cool back in 06-07, though.)
  • I got sick of spending my life in a terminal window instead of actually using my computer for something productive. (Not that I'm a very productive person, mind you. It would have been nice to have had the choice, though.)
  • I got sick of the shitty people that live on Linux support forums. Worse than them are the shitty people who moderate said forums. (Looking at you, Ubuntu.)

It's my understanding that things have improved significantly over the last eight years. (Holy shit! It's been eight years?) I'm probably going to convert my daily driver (A 2010 Dell that came with Win 7 installed, which is why I quit Linux in the first place) some time before year's end. It's getting a little long in the tooth, and could use some refreshing.

[–] the_art_collector 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

All of the above. I will say this: Linux is not getting further behind. Every year it catches up a little bit more. I do believe we will be free of Windows/OSX one day, but it probably won't be in the form people expect. The biggest problem with Linux was never the software but the disorganized and often delusional community which rarely concerns itself with ease of use. Strong, customer-oriented, fascist OSes like Windows and OSX control everything from the top down which has advantages in terms of software quality and stability. Shit security, though.

[–] karnov 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I switched to Linux about 5 years ago (Mint), I did have some linux experience before but was windows user since 95. I will never-ever go back to Windows. Having said that - I use my linux box for browsing and programming (work). I think at this time Linux beats windows to death if one programs in non-MS languages. If that is your job I would not hesitate to switch, it can only get better. My kids also have mint or ubuntu on their laptops and do not complain.

[–] chuckletrousers 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I think at this time Linux beats windows to death if one programs in non-MS languages.

I think at this time Linux beats windows to death if one programs in languages that are more portable than the Rocky Mountains.

FTFY

[–] UnknownAlias365 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

A lot of people don't just browse though, they use software that have no good alternatives or they play games.

[–] R34p_Th3_Wh0r1w1nd 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Yes I'll buy a AMD system dedicated to Linux this year.

[–] CoolguyLondon 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Yes. Because Linux seems to be the safer option.

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