[–] Wazhappenin1 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

I am of the belief that given the connection to CGI and HRC herself,none of this info would have been revealed if HRC had been elected. This belief made them extremely sloppy. Unlike Epstein's extortion racket, who although his operation was much worse and involved all the big players, and operated(perhaps still does)for longer, never really got the investigation as NXIVM has or press for that matter. He was much more careful and far too protected.

I believe NXIVM was amateur hour. A sort of cross between Amway and Scientology. Whereas the real child sex rings and traffickers, of which Epstein was/is one, will never be aired out in public like this.

It is interesting the switch to the NDNY for the more serious crimes in the second indictment ,came after the little meet and greet between Lesko and Geragos/Avenatti . Remember these guys are message men.

The relief of the victims of NXIVM that the charges would be brought by EDNY was palpable. Many have asserted that NDNY has been cooped by NXVIM s network.

Anyway I won't be offended if someone corrects me on this impression.

Wouldn't surprise me in the least to see nothing happen at the second trial.

But back to Gillibrand. What a typical fucking lying whore Politician.

[–] Quicktor 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Totally agree on NXIUM being amateur hour...there is an entire sex club industry that is organized, owned and operated by The Rabbi...

the shit that goes in Hollywood, Tel Aviv and Abu Dhabi would make Satan uncomfortable...

but that's why we have David Lynch and Steven Spielberg...

[–] Wazhappenin1 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Never heard lynch connected to all this. I'm not a fan. Spielberg he's def keeping his shit on the DL. Maybe I'm just looking for condirmation bias. But i have to say I've haven't seen much on him. He has all the right signs that he's a pedo.

Do you remember AI? Spielberg finished where Kubrick left off. It's so obvious what part if the movie is better, more interesting. Spielberg literally feels the need to spell it out for you, his movies are condescending to the viewer . Although I'm pretty sure I or my family won't be watching any of it,

I fucking censor everything, my wife is really good at checking the producers and directors forHe kids stuff. She won't let them watch anything Disney, anything Sesame Street. Once I got real woke, to the point where I made a decision to accept world view as I see it now, My interest in modern culture from the 50s up has been forever diminished.

[–] LastGarrison 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

At this point, I'm starting to believe they torture the children to see who presents PK, ESP, or PSI abilities. Per the CIA's declassified documents, and traditionally understood occult practices, sex would be the least important reason.

PK, Telepathy, PSI would be the most coveted.

Some groups stimulate through sex, other groups stimulate through mind or body torture. They discard the ones who didn't "transform" (MK, Ciccada, etc.)

There is evidence in addition to what I've stated above that GeoEngineering, 5G, Radio/Microwave dosing are also related to provoking adepts to perform. As well as a control and suppression mechanism for people who do exhibit abilities but refuse their programs (all intel agencies are involved, as again, revealed in declassified documents, mainly OSS > NSA > CIA > DIA > DOD and in between, years of Senate Committees passing it on as they left office and sold people out in corporate positions).

Ala, 50s, 60s, 70s X-men, Super Soliders, Mutants programming.

This would give credence to the real reason "bloodlines" or "families" matter, which include the concepts of Zionism from one group, and isolationism/purebloods from the other. Something like say, the Church wanted ordination, while the families proclaimed king/queenship based on blood.

Sex is petty compared to what the CIA/NSA/OSS discovered, and what is/was passed down through occult literature and word-of-mouth through families. And this would also explain the rampant protectionism among those who get caught as "perverts."

Lastly, tie-in Scientology, Rosicrucianism, Phreemasons, all with leaders from within the intel agencies. This includes Religious groups who might practice various forms of "suppression" (abuse) on their own children because they believe the adepts are using the devil's gifts. Scientology specifically even uses language and semantics predicated on "awakening" someone or "clearing" them.

[–] YogSoggoth 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Raniere got kicked out of Arkansas by the Clintons, and fled to where? Right up the road from Chappaqua. Well, that's odd, but not as strange as them donating to Hillary's campaign later. In the crime world, you have to be careful not to step on the bosses toes, and if you do, reparations are in order.

[–] Wazhappenin1 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Check out the latest I posted on NXIVM on v/news. And i agree

[–] carmencita 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

“Her father Doug Rutnik came to work as a consultant for NXIVM. … He was fired, they sued him, and they had to pay him $100,000,” alleged former NXIVM employee Frank Parlato told Big League Politics. “Her father’s wife, her stepmother, was also a member of NXIVM … Doug got her into the cult, Gillibrand’s father got Gillibrand’s future stepmother into the cult. Doug left the cult because he was sued. Clare Bronfman, after her father was sued, donated money to Gillibrand. Gillibrand accepted it.”

An unnamed source also reportedly told the website that Gillibrand once sat at an NXIVM table at a fundraising event for former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. (RELATED: Kirsten Gillibrand Campaigns In Iowa City But This Woman Just Wants Some Ranch)

The senator has consistently lagged behind other Democratic presidential contenders in the polls and is widely considered a long-shot to take home the nomination next year.

She's considered a Long Shot and Biden has come under Sexual Harrassment Charges. Hmm. Doesn't look too good for the upcoming election. Possibly that's why they are trying to ignore the fact that Biden's Harrassment didn't just include Adult Women, but also Children. Biden has some really kinky needs. Women and Young Girls? Then he also spends lots of time in Rehoboth Beach a Gay Mecca.

[–] think- 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Kamela Harris is under fire too, due to the Smollett case.

[–] new4now 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Kamela is an anchor baby

her parents werent here long enough when she was born to become citizens

[–] carmencita 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Look Out. Here comes Hillary? Or maybe Chelsea? Ugh. Well I think maybe they really want us to elect Beto. What's a Beto?

[–] Lansing-Michigan 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Lord God...........Used to read Daily Kos and Democratic Underground every day............Kirsten Gillibrand was heavily pushed...along with Jon Tester........because clintons. Seemed like Marcos worked for the clintons after he left CIA.

[–] carmencita 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Tester is Freemason. He speaks to Children in his state about joining. Found this last year by mistake. The things we uncover while researching other things is Amazing. So Gillibrand is NXIVM and Tester is Freemason. Wow. and then Marcos.

[–] carmencita 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

PS. I used to read them too. Now I just read them for research info. Lol. How things have changed.

[–] shewhomustbeobeyed 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

[–] think- 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Gillibrand's father was accused of sexual harassment by Nancy Salzman (!):

The allegations in the suit were that Rutnik had not delivered on promised consulting services for which he was paid $25,000 per month and that he had sexually harassed Nxivm president Nancy Salzman. Rutnik settled the lawsuit by paying Nxivm $100,000, the sum total of his four month’s of consulting fees.


We never discussed this, IIRC.


[–] new4now 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 


If I remember right, anyone who pissed NXIVM members off, they would bring some kind of suit


was he guilty? or

did he pay just to make it all go away?

just remembered also

Keiths Father worked for Bronfman in an advertising capacity

What about Mom?

did she get involved?

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@letsdothis3 @Factfinder2 @SandHog: please see parent.

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[–] Lansing-Michigan 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Kirsten Gillibrand was heavily pushed by Daily Kos.........democratic yuppy website. Former CIA Markos Moulitisas owns Daily Kos and anybody the clintons likes, so did markos........heavily censored ........also pushed Jon Tester who has been named as a pedophile.

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