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[–] IpointOutTrolls 4 points 8 points (+12|-4) ago 

I have been watching this train wreck in utter amazement that people would actually believe it could have been real. One thing I discovered is that there are not as many die hard Q believers as there appears to be. I firmly believe the core group, Patriot Soap Box and CBTS (same people) were using an army of alts and were cruising from one site to the other talking to themselves. Doing this it makes it appear as if there are more die hard followers than there really are.

I noticed that when questioned they would give the same canned answers and often offer hostility, as if by design.

There will be another scam, and another, and another..........more will come. I hope people learned a lesson. We pay with our time, our attention, and some paid with donations and buying merchandise. Flynn got hurt in real life.

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[–] newshoes 3 points 4 points (+7|-3) ago 

I have been watching this train wreck in utter amazement that people would actually believe it could have been real.

Word

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[–] ESOTERICshade 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

The guy did a good job on the article but he must not know how they were doing the Twitter tricks. They were pulling Trump's Tweets from this site http://trumptwitterarchive.com/ about five minutes sooner than they would show up on Twitter.


Tweets will show up to the Tweeter immediately but sometimes it takes a couple of minutes for the server to take a Tweet site wide. They were grabbing the Tweets earlier than everybody else. That is how they knew there would be misspellings etc....


Twitter caught on to the scam and changed the code. Now they can't grab the Tweets early and that is why they suddenly stopped "predicting" Trump's Tweets. They lost the ability to continue the Twitter scam.

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[–] ridleychozo [S] 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

yep - was not aware of the archive. Good info, shade!

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[–] newshoes 2 points 3 points (+5|-2) ago 

I think they also had access to a news server that only people with credentials could access. Can't remember the guys name that had the access but I think he might have worked for Washington Post in the past and could still hit the server. He could see what was boiling in the news pots that might actually get published. His name has been said on this forum before not too long ago but I don't remember which thread it was.

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[–] ESOTERICshade 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I think they also had access to a news server that only people with credentials could access. Can't remember the guys name that had the access but I think he might have worked for Washington Post in the past and could still hit the server. He could see what was boiling in the news pots that might actually get published. His name has been said on this forum before not too long ago but I don't remember which thread it was.

That was probably me that posted his name. I don't remember which thread it was either. Not sure but I 'think' maybe his name was Michael something? I posted it once. I might go back and look for it.

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[–] Are_we__sure 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Is this how the scam was pulled?

Baker Reveals Real Truth of the Q Phenomenon

I’ll tell you who’s the real Q is

From: Murk Murk Sent: Sunday, May 6, 2018 12:11 AM To: unirocktv@gmail.com Subject: CBTS Baker setting story straight. I'm tired of the lies. Q tell all.Just the truth.

”QBRD_BAKER” here

I’m here to separate FACT from FICTION.

For a couple of month’s, I tried to set things straight. I eventually gave up trying because every time I posted anything to tell the truth it was quickly deleted off the board, and people were too brainwashed by this point. Everyone affiliated with CBTS were quick to label me or others a “SHILL” when posting things on the board. They told Anons to ignore my posts and they followed marching orders like the sheep they’ve become. It’s really sad! The one thing we were trying to push on everyone not to be.

Let me explain. I’m one of the original members of the CBTS group/bakers/Mods – or whatever you want to call us. I ended up bailing from the group, as did a many others, and because of the shit that this all turned in to. .... Here are the FACTS: ..... And I say this with so much guilt, No, there is no real Q member or members within the government or in the military giving us intel. It’s the truth!

I want everyone to know though that the intensions behind all of this were noble and honest at first, but it eventually changed, and people in the group got greedy, big headed, egotistical and all they saw were dollar signs coming out of this. Basically, they chose to become the famefags they are now! It sickens my stomach that I didn’t cut ties in all this sooner! I’ll be even more honest with you. There were a lot of us to start in all this, but many got booted out because they questioned things, because they didn’t want to comply with Baruch or Pamphlet, or because there were too many members to share the “wealth” with. I’ll point out additional facts and point you to the sauce on this for you to follow up on!

I’ll tell you who’s the real Q. It is everyone who clicked up with CBTS. Pamphlet Anon, Pam’s wife, Baruch the Scribe, Farmer Funk, Code Monkey, Obobo, Rain, Tracybeanz, and to a big extent Dr Corsi (unknowingly at first, but I’m sure Corsi was let on to the truth later on, IDK for sure because I had left the group but I’m pretty sure he knows the truth) are the major players that you know of (BO’s, mods, bakers etc); there were lots of us from, halfchan, reddit, and infinitychan. Each and every one of us has their own “expertise” to contribute and that’s what we did; even very useful techy members like code monkey as a great example. If shit got too heated in the kitchen, and you were considered a threat to the “plan,” guess what, you were outed! That’s exactly what kept happening. If drama broke out, a new discord server was created, a new board was created, you were banned, and more important, you were booted from the group and threatened. Everyone knew going in this that if one person said anything than everyone was going down together. We don’t Doxx Q is how it was put! It would be a “shitstorm” for all of us! This is how “WWG1WGA” came about. We are in this shit together and we’ll go down together if shit got out. The “shitstorm” fell in line with the storm. This is also where the whole “double meaning” came in. We had thought this shit out really well and we all helped to create the lie. We also knew going in that if we were going to do this we needed to cover our bases. Which is how we came-up with "disinformation is necessary,” “future proves past,” along with a many other cheeky words: crumbs, bread, bakers, red pill, etc. Think about! Do you really think some special intel person would know all these chan terms? (Autists, Anons, Bakers, Normies, etc.) Is it clearer now? We made all this shit up! Even when mistakes were made, and they were, we were able to trick people that shit was intentional: misspellings, initials. It’s even how other Q’s were created. We accidentally let it slip that there were many of us within the posts so people said – “oh they must be a group!” we rolled with it! We did this shit on a constant. People swallowed this shit up just as we hoped. ......

Here are the sources (How shit was done) for you to follow up on.

A lot of the major players (actors) took turns posting as Q. It’s why you see many “device” ID’s on the chans. If you know Pam and Baruch well, and know how they talk you’ll be able to make out some of their verbal habits in the drops. They often taunted people with them. Examples: we serve at the pleasure of the president (this was us, secretly saying we were Q – fast forward it’s also why tracy kept saying “we are Q to POTUS in a recent vid of hers), some of come to drop crumbs just crumbs, trust the plan (Pam came up with this) etc. I can go on. Prior to the elections some members had started sending letters to the president complaining about the problems in our government. It was time we got measurable change – is what they wrote. We also called it Quality and Quantitative change! This is where Q came from. We called ourselves Q patriots in every letter and made it clear that we were wanting change and that we were rooting for him and promised to help him gain votes to make this possible. We sent lots and lots of letters hoping he’d acknowledge us.

Regarding the famefagging – look back to see who reached out first to inforwars, tracy and many other truthers for interviews. The truth is out there. They’ve even been caught saying that Q told them directly to do this (BULLSHIT AGAIN). This is when Tracy came on board too and Corsi. ...... The tripcode – Matlock was Baruch. That fucking idiot says he knows digital forensics but he cant even come up with a secure trip? He’s the biggest moron of all. We all would secretly make fun of that fool. Anyway, when the trip got cracked we had to come up with something fast. That’s how that “they used special hardware to crack it” came about. Farmer also helped here. You can go back to see he supposedly verifies Q’s IP to validate his new trip along with Baruch and Codemonkey – all fake. We threw that shit in the drops and people bought it all up.

Baruch and Pam silenced people that were questioning the drops, and silenced some of us that left and posted the truths by deleting our posts and banning our IP’s – yes Codemonkey/Baruch do track IPs on the board. If they tell you otherwise it’s a lie! If you search there are archives that show the deleted posts and you clearly see the BS that transpired and who’s at the lead (the BO and others). Dumbass Tripfags!

CBTS discord – Pam planned to make other platforms to collect money. Farmer wanted to start something in the discord to capitalize. Pam said no (because he already promised people he wouldn’t) and drama broke out. Eventually they planned to break up the CBTS discord allowing Farmer to collect in the CBTS discord and Pam made a new server. By this time, this was the 3 new discord server because drama kept coming up when members questioned “the plan.” This is why it also spilled over on the chans! Farmer took a fall for letting in an FBI informant (as planned). But guess what, Don’t question it, you’re a shill if you do, trust the plan! – Yup all BS!

This was a constant and still is. As we broke up the group. Someone would try to control the board to be Q. This is how Baruch took over first on 4chan, then another member, then farmer. Look back and you’ll find constant contradictions from yes we know Q, yes we have contact with Q, to and all that (baruch). Farmer responding as Q to himself as the anon who initials his post with ff (farmerfunk). Search the Qmap website for the “ff”.

More recently – you see the drama with corsi and others where Q is bashing them but then gives props to the bakers, codemonkey, and BO – Please open your eyes people! I’m so very sorry for my part but you are all being lied to. The pictures - We would find them on the net, modify them with photoshop or other applications, reverse the images over lay things on them, or did things so that they couldnt be reversed search in google: unless that's what we wanted you to do. We would test it ourselves.

The bigger parts:

There is a website that shows all of TRUMPS tweets. It’s still on the web now (http://www.trumptwitterarchive.com/). It used to be able to load tweets right after Trump would post it but a bit faster than it would pop up on Twitter; around 5-15 min faster. It mostly depended on the server but this is how we got lucky and were able to post some of the words off Trumps tweets on the chans before it loaded on twitter. This really made it all very believable. But really it was all because there was a code that twitter provided to capture the tweet off the server (it’s how media websites would capture and embed them too). Twitter eventually fixed this and it’s why you no longer see the POTUS tweets prior to him posting them on twitter. This coding was all code monkey with the help of a few others.

Pam and his wife gave a lot of direction on the drops. His wife wrote the questions because she knew the connections. Others helped to. Corsi as well by providing Pam answers from his research. You’ll find a lot of things from corsi’s books covered in the crumbs just reworded for the socratic method we used (Pams wife came up with this).

there's more at

https://steemit.com/qanon/@unirock/qanon-the-cbtsstream-baker-email-reveal-the-real-truth-of-the-qanon-phenomenon

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[–] cutelobster 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

The Q-project was fake, no doubt. The question is do we believe the current narrative of how Q was faked. All of the current stories tend to move Q away from alphabet agency control. Is Q really not the CIA (or one of the umpteen other government agencies?) The current narrative gives us Q as a creation of a few private individuals or private organisations. It seems suspicious when we start to have 'colourful characters' (some with 'colourful names'- Baruch the Scribe!) getting pushed our way. Did Q really arise from the soup of a low-rent soap-opera?There were large resources behind the project - where did the money come from? Why did Youtube green-light and push the project? Could Q really gain such traction without at least the tacit approval of the intelligence community? Like JFK and 911, I guess we will never know. But if the creation of Q was a psyop of some kind, then the same could go for the deconstruction of Q.

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[–] think- 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

The question is do we believe the current narrative of how Q was faked.

But if the creation of Q was a psyop of some kind, then the same could go for the deconstruction of Q.

This.

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[–] SoberSecondThought 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Oddly enough, we agree. The deconstruction of Q is also a psyop.

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[–] ridleychozo [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Why not Mossad? To me it doesn't really matter anymore which intelligence agency it was. None of them serve the American people. They're all operatives for the elite - any other narrative is an illusion. We, the people, must organize ourselves to solve these problems. They will not do it for us.

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[–] Are_we__sure 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

There were large resources behind the project - where did the money come from?

This is assuming facts not in evidence. Why do you think there were large resources? It seems very much the opposite. It was literally just people posting on chan boards, making youtube video and websites. How much does that take?

It might have been sophisticated, but it seems like all of it could be for pretty cheap. Especially if they were making money while doing it.

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[–] rarepeeks 2 points 4 points (+6|-2) ago 

@vindicator steps in to jam his opinions down our throat, again. Shock me not.

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[–] Vindicator 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Please state where I have offered an opinion. The submission was full of opinions, some of which were not supported by facts. I offered no opinions.

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[–] rarepeeks 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The submission was full of opinions, some of which were not supported by facts.

Same goes for many submissions that you ignore. You are cherrypicking based on your own desires and bias. If you treated migratorypatterns submissions the way you treated this one migratorypatterns would get most of their posts flagged.

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[–] ESOTERICshade 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Its the fraudsters behind the Patriot Soap Box 24/7 livestream that are behind it from what I understand. Those fuckers have not totally given up yet. They are now pitching the line that Julian Assange is Q Anon even though Wikileaks called them a bunch of Pied Piper frauds.


People have been put in prison for doing what they are doing. If law enforcement can tie them to the monetized part such as the youtube channels, T shirt sales, selling that app, they are open for prison time and I hope they get busted.


From what I understand they made some good coin on this fraud. Pamphlet, one of the people pretending to be Q, suddenly turned up with what appears to be tens of thousands of dollars worth of studio grade computer equipment etc...There is a video somewhere of him with all his brand new shit but I don't remember how to find it. Tracy Beanz too.


They seriously took advantage of a lot of well meaning patriots and I hope they get their ass in serious trouble for it.


Matter of fact I might be willing help fund getting their asses sued. If 10 of us put in a thousand dollars each we can bury their ass in legal paperwork they will have to pay an attorney to deal with.

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[–] ridleychozo [S] 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

which "they"? Cicada 3301, pamphlet, the livestreamers?

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[–] ESOTERICshade 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

which "they"? Cicada 3301, pamphlet, the livestreamers?

Not Cicada 3301. I think they were involved at the very beginning but not in a malicious way. I think Cicada bailed out early because the shit started to get so damn crazy.


Farmer Funk, Pamphlet, Pam, Baruch The Scribe, Codemonkey from 8Chan, Tracy Beanz, and a few others. CBTS/Patriot Soap Box people. From the way I understand it they were driving the traffic to specific youtube channels and sites that they could control and they are splitting the money.


Look for Nathan at "lift the veil" on youtube, bitchute, and steemit. Also look for Unirock2 at youtube. Recent videos with details galore. You have to be patient with Unirock2 though because he will drive you a little bit batshit crazy because it takes him way too damn long to get to the point.

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[–] ESOTERICshade 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Biggest lie Q ever told>>> These people are stupid!

The people that run this world are far from being stupid. They invent money. They decide what money is and who shall have some. They raise the brightest minds from birth to run this world for them. They have an endless amount of brains to sift through and they collect the genius level I.Q.s to do their bidding.

Q is one of the most stupid things to hit the internet in my lifetime.

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[–] meowski 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I've been calling out this Q LARP since the beginning and let's just say that opinion wasn't very popular then, but it's pretty undeniable now.
If an insider has anything important to say, they'll speak in complete sentences, not vague cryptic jibberish. This fits the profile of a psychic.

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[–] Gothamgirl 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Well thank you for caring enough to make this video. It could very well be what you think, the problem is he uncovered so much, it could be anything, including a false flag.

He thought Q was https://voat.co/v/realnews/2369042

@Srayzie what are your thoughts on this?

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