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[–] Factfinder2 [S] 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The Mormon church announced on May 8 that it will dissociate itself from the Boy Scouts of America: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/05/09/mormons-sever-ties-boy-scouts-america/

EDIT to add: The Boy Scouts will lose 425,000 members when Mormons pull out at the end of next year. That's one-fifth of their membership: https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/boy-scouts-lose-425000-boys-name/

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[–] rooting4redpillers 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I heard the same stat elsewhere, 20%. And, that additional financial support from the church exceeded 20%. That’s a big loss. Somehow, alienating this large source of funding must be worth it.

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[–] Factfinder2 [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Good point.

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[–] carmencita 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

In an official press release, the church announced its intent to focus its efforts on a “worldwide initiative for children and youth” that their leadership has been preparing “for years.” And so, “effective on December 31, 2019, the Church will conclude its relationship as a chartered organization with all Scouting programs around the world.”

According to the statement, their own organization intends to “help all girls and boys, young women and young men discover their eternal identity, build character and resilience, develop life skills and fulfill their divine roles as daughters and sons of God.”

WHAT do you think they mean by "help all girls and boys discover their eternal identity? Eternal Identity? Strange wording.

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[–] dundundunnnnn 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I was raised LDS/Mormon. Eternal identity is akin to teaching children that they are children of god and that our time on Earth is a short test to see what we do with our free agency. We were taught to have an eternal perspective on life, not a short sighted view of our time on Earth. There is an eternal perspective for families, as well. Families can be sealed for time and all eternity. Time is temporary. Time is the work of the devil (I don't know if Mormons believe that, but I do). Mormons are taught about an eternal outlook on things. That's the gist of it.

I can see why it might sound strange to someone outside of the church.

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[–] Factfinder2 [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

It's creepy. See this: https://www.lds.org/youth/childrenandyouth

New Children and Youth Development Initiative Coming January 2020

New initiative to replace all existing activity programs for girls and boys, young women and young men in 2020.

The needs of all children and youth of our faith worldwide are the primary consideration for our youth initiatives. For years, Church leaders have focused on creating ways to minister to the needs of young people around the world. A new initiative, coming January 2020, is designed to support families as they seek to develop faith in Jesus Christ and build character and capacity. Testing and refinement is in progress and more details will be shared as we near implementation.


We need to keep eyes on the roll-out of this program.

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[–] Kekalicious 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I thought the Mormons have issues with pulling out. I like smoking cigars but occasionally take them out of my mouth.

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[–] dundundunnnnn 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Oh wow. I'm pleasantly surprised.

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[–] carmencita 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Hope you don't mind my posting this here. I was looking for info of women abusing girls in the Girl Scouts since we know there are such. Well, I saw this article and I was really elated that parents are standing up for Boys and Girls. Parents are not in favor of Boy Scouts accepting Girls. No Way. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-boy-scouts-for-girls-20171012-story.html

It's a great article so read it all. But this really says it all.

“Believe me when I tell you, it would be horrible,” Gremel said. “Men and women are equal, but not the same.”

Gremel is something of a legendary figure in local scouting circles, having served more than 60 years as scoutmaster for Troop 979 , for which he still volunteers.

Gremel said it’s “hard enough” to plan events just for boys, and adding girls to activities and outings would complicate things for scoutmasters and other volunteers.

“If they allow girls in this group, I will drop out of Scouts completely,” Gremel said.

AND How About This

“We have research that shows girls really do thrive in an all-girl environment,” said L’Oreal Payton, spokeswoman for the Girl Scouts of Greater Chicago and Northwest Indiana. “It’s a safe space for a girl to be a girl.”

YES, What a Novel Idea letting Boys be Boys and Girls be Girls.

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[–] Factfinder2 [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Great article.

"...Girl Scouts officials claiming the Boy Scouts are making the change as a revenue grab, possibly because of dwindling enrollment and financial woes from payouts over sex abuse claims."

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[–] carmencita 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Yes! That's the first thing I thought when I heard the news! Money. Also, if they have men leaders, that will allow the leaders that prefer girls have their fun now. If they have women leaders for the girls What An Orgy. Boys Girls Women and Men. This is a Fiasco waiting to happen. Also what will they do for camping? Ugh. I am going to Vomit Again. All former Girl Scouts are upset.

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[–] Kekalicious 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Gild Scouts, Using child slave labor to sell cookies. I really don't want to know what that eagle scout will try to sell me.

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[–] lamplight 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Girls who have experienced incest and other forms of abuse thrive in an all girl program such as Girl Scouts. It would be wrong to take this option away from these children. Most would not consider joining boy scouts or a group that allows both sexes.

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[–] carmencita 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I think so too and most Moms would not even entertain the thought. I think the more this comes out, the more backlash we will hear. Stupid Idea.

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[–] YogSoggoth 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

In the South it is called a hayride. You put some hay in the trailer, tell the kids, "we are going somewhere for any given holiday," and pull it with a slow noisy tractor. That is how babies are made while the parents keep watch.

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[–] Vindicator 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Great post, Factfinder2. The law around this subject is one of the biggest problems we face.

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[–] ClockworkHeart 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I bet it went something like this: Boy Scouts: "We'd like statutes of limitations on child abuse please"... Filthy Democrat : "Well, we'd like you to accept girls and trans into the Boy Scouts". Boy Scouts " .........................Ok."

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[–] dundundunnnnn 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

There you go!

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[–] new4now 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Cant have people knowing how long its been going on

They cant afford suits as the Catholic Churches can

head it off at the pass

SMH

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[–] Factfinder2 [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

When an organization for kids throws kids under the bus, you know there's a larger agenda in play.

http://www.cuttingedge.org/n1039.html

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[–] derram 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

https://archive.fo/5rO7N :

Why The Boy Scouts Are Lobbying Against Children | HuffPost

https://archive.fo/6ut8u :

LOVETT: Abuse survivors rip Boy Scouts for hiring ex-state senator to lobby against Child Victims Act - NY Daily News

https://archive.fo/xatyx :

Boy Scout Files for First Time Give Glimpse at Years of Abuse - The New York Times


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[–] Factfinder2 [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Thank you.

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[–] GreenDell144 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

There is a lot of great work here. Good job, OP, all.

https://youtu.be/SbeLFG6Lglo

“The Tide is Turning”

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[–] dundundunnnnn 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

"...Girl Scouts officials claiming the Boy Scouts are making the change as a revenue grab, possibly because of dwindling enrollment and financial woes from payouts over sex abuse claims."

Color me surprised :/

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