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[–] cho 53 points 38 points (+91|-53) ago  (edited ago)

Or the black population could stop behaving in such a way that the police need military gear. But that would be victim blaming and racist I guess. :|

On another note, I fail to see how this is news and not politics.

Edit: Guys I'm not the one "making" it a racial issue, read the article.

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[–] SirWompalot 3 points 43 points (+46|-3) ago 

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[–] WildThingSammiT 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Brr-brr-brr brrbrr-brr!

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[–] BANGcake 1 points 13 points (+14|-1) ago 

Can you explain how the only reason cops need military gear is the black population?

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[–] cho 6 points 3 points (+9|-6) ago 

I didn't say only, but that's the focus of the article posted. Not "young people" like OP titled, it quite clearly refers to black throughout.

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[–] dixienormas07 13 points 7 points (+20|-13) ago 

Yea black people shotting cops in the back is getting really out of hand

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[–] blackguard19 3 points 18 points (+21|-3) ago 

He was probably referencing their lopsided propensity for theft, violent crime, and attacking cops.

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[–] Irollthenickles 2 points 6 points (+8|-2) ago 

lmao wasn't it a black guy who killed the two rookie cops from behind well they sat in their squad car?

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[–] A_Fringe_Element 2 points 5 points (+7|-2) ago 

Oh, we're still pretending that blacks aren't responsible for most of the violent crime in the US?

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[–] NateThomas1979 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

While you're fine about the distinction between news and politics, you making it a racial issue ignores the same thing happening to James Boyd, Nehemiah Fisher and the rest of the 171 white individuals killed by cops as of June 1st 2015.

It's not a racial issue, or at least it's not one anymore. When cops are requesting MRAPS to fight weed SOMEthing is wrong. What stoner has access to landmines??? How insane are we as a society anymore wherein we believe that this is necessary?

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[–] refugee610 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

To be fair, if I could get an MRAP for what they pay (like, $100 or some other absurd number) I'd get one too (or maybe get a hundred and open up a dealership lol).

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[–] Werdd 12 points 34 points (+46|-12) ago  (edited ago)

Yeah Darren Wilson should have totally let Michael Brown kick his ass and steal his gun. He should have connected with him and gave him a big ol hug. Michael Brown would still be alive today volunteering in soup kitchens and saving puppies from euthanasia!

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[–] weezkitty 4 points 26 points (+30|-4) ago 

I don't care about the Michal Brown case. But what about Eric Garner, Tamir Rice, Kristiana Coignard, Zachary Hammond or dozens of others?

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[–] OldBoris 4 points 22 points (+26|-4) ago  (edited ago)

In a country with over three hundred million inhabitants, these things happen from time to time. The Washington Post catalogued all deaths at the hands of on-duty police officers in the first five months of 2015, a total of 365 men and 20 women were shot by the police in the United States. More details: (1) 171 of the men and 9 of the women were white. (2) 100 of the men and 5 of the women were black (which, when compared to the rate at which black men are perpetrators of homicide, actually means that black men are under-represented in this figure). (3) 54 of the men and 3 of the women were Hispanic. (4) 6 of the men and none of the women were Asian. (5) Only 1 in 6 was not armed with a lethal weapon.

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[–] flimflamedthezimzam 1 points 10 points (+11|-1) ago 

It's not even that, it's the fact that we jail more people than China. We conduct 50,000 to 80,000 SWAT raids a year. We have the highest incarceration rate on the planet, millions of citizens are being taken and we can't even be bothered about the abductions that go wrong.

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[–] blackguard19 3 points 10 points (+13|-3) ago 

Hey don't talk about Saint Brown like that, he has been a whole year without crime.

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[–] Germanic_Confederate 2 points 1 points (+3|-2) ago 

Hey don't forget to thank his anger counsellor - Darren Wilson. :)

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[–] 1Sorry_SOB 2 points 4 points (+6|-2) ago 

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[–] CANCEL-CAT-FACTS 2 points 3 points (+5|-2) ago 

He was the most gentle strong arm robber there ever was.

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[–] TalkingAnimal 7 points 18 points (+25|-7) ago  (edited ago)

This is one of the benefits of police officers in schools. A lot of people think it's ridiculous to have a cop in a public school, but the ones I've seen usually eat lunch with kids, build rapports and relationships. Sometimes the kids come to trust the cops and wind up sharing that they've been abused and the cop helps them get protection. For the most part, they improve the image of cops. They paint authority not as an obstacle but as serving a function.

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[–] Diogenes_The_Cynic 3 points 28 points (+31|-3) ago 

The cops in my high school used to just roll around in their electric carts yelling at us for playing hacky-sack on the quad. Its like they want us to hate them.

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[–] Gerk 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

You sure those were cops?

We had people just like that but they were just security guards.

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[–] machina70 12 points -3 points (+9|-12) ago 

Wow what monsters! You mean they asked you not to play your game where people were walking?

How did you ever survive that?

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[–] taxation_is_slavery 10 points 15 points (+25|-10) ago 

In other words, they brainwash the kids and feed off the information they provide like "daddy smokes this smelly weed after work" leads to a bust and CPS kidnapping the kids from a "drug endangered" household.

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[–] TalkingAnimal 6 points 13 points (+19|-6) ago 

Maybe. Or, you know, "Daddy rapes me."

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[–] FatPeopleHater- 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

This is 100% correct

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[–] edthomson92 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago  (edited ago)

You're absolutely right.

What we need to do is fix how police serve the state, instead of the people. Then, on top of doing their actual jobs, they could potentially be in schools, without fear of brainwashing kids or getting info for unnecessary drug raids

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[–] Rellik88 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Wow I love how social media loves criminals.

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[–] MarcoVincenzo 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

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[–] Gracchi 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

If they acted like that I'd agree. You know what my interaction with police was as a kid? Having them come in to search your lockers for contraband and make a scene when some poor kid got busted. I didn't do shit wrong in High School and that still rubbed me the wrong way. And that was a long time ago. Pre-Columbine. It's a lot worse for kids now.

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[–] weezkitty 3 points 9 points (+12|-3) ago 

The problem isn't arrests. It is needless killings

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[–] TexasComments 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

In a country with over three hundred million inhabitants, these things happen from time to time. The Washington Post catalogued all deaths at the hands of on-duty police officers in the first five months of 2015, a total of 365 men and 20 women were shot by the police in the United States. More details: (1) 171 of the men and 9 of the women were white. (2) 100 of the men and 5 of the women were black (which, when compared to the rate at which black men are perpetrators of homicide, actually means that black men are under-represented in this figure). (3) 54 of the men and 3 of the women were Hispanic. (4) 6 of the men and none of the women were Asian. (5) Only 1 in 6 was not armed with a lethal weapon.

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[–] Germanic_Confederate 3 points -2 points (+1|-3) ago 

"Innocent" - right....

Lol!

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[–] CyrexCore2k 2 points 1 points (+3|-2) ago  (edited ago)

You mean you want young people to respect cops? I have a great first step then. The police need to stop enforcing ridiculous laws. That means either removing those laws or for the police to simply say "Enough. We don't care." The entire country knows weed isn't dangerous now, certainly a lot less dangerous than armed men storming a house late at night. But does anybody, from the politicians down to the individual officers change their behavior? Of course not. They all pass the buck on responsibility. That kind of behavior doesn't and shouldn't garner respect. Young people are simply behaving rationally in a country that seems to have forgotten what rational behavior is.

Police will be respected when they start acting respectable.

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[–] HelloBuddy1234 4 points 11 points (+15|-4) ago 

Of course it would be better if police were everyone's friends and treated people more nicely, but police are hired mostly by the lawful who want protection from criminals. It's not their job to make criminals happy. If a whole city or county isn't happy with their police force go ahead and fire them, but it's ridiculous to accommodate a vocal minority of criminals who are unhappy that police aren't nice to them.

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[–] voatforgoat 2 points 9 points (+11|-2) ago 

The article is about building trust and relationships with the youth, so unless you're regarding all young people as criminals how does this make sense? By ensuring that young people trust and respect the police enough to report crimes and not to commit them, this decreases crime rates, improving relations with the police and achieving the police's goal.

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[–] HelloBuddy1234 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

Sure, the article title says young people, but the larger theme of the article is blaming crime on police because they aren't nice enough. It's an argument I only see children, criminals, and cheaters use. *If only you weren't so mean to me I wouldn't have done ___________*. The author invokes Ferguson and Michael Brown, suggesting that Michael Brown was a victim of a hostile, militarized, and racist police force and not a criminal who robbed a convenience store before attacking a cop. I don't buy it.

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[–] Imapopulistnow 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

There is a lot of deja vu all over again with ths concept, but in reality things do not seem to change much. There is something much deeper involved.

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[–] taxation_is_slavery 7 points 8 points (+15|-7) ago 

Police should mind their own fucking business and study the constitution.

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[–] HoneyNutStallmans 1 points 11 points (+12|-1) ago 

What are you, some kind of crazy Constitutionalist?

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[–] taxation_is_slavery 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

The public school curriculum and tv programming have cleansed much of the population of the desire for freedom. We have to hide now, behind VPNs, pretending to have benign opinions IRL or be put in a cage.

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[–] carlip 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

You really think a piece of paper is going to stop anything? If you think local cops are bad, you should read about what the federales do.

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[–] taxation_is_slavery 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Local and federal police should be jailed if they stray from the constitution. There should be pools of examiners selected at random from the population to review complaints, body cam footage, etc. with the power to fire the police and refer the case to a criminal or civil court.

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[–] TexasComments 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

You would LOVE /v/amibeingdetained

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[–] BraneS2 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

This is never going to happen. (Police LOVE their military toys)

The issue is that they are trying to raise funds to pay for their local police departments by ticketing everyone. Local police take property, including cash and cars, from people that they stop, and hand it over to federal authorities but get to keep 80%.(You have to PROVE the money did not come from drugs - so it's 'guilty til proven innocent', which is a very difficult burden, and they usually get to keep most of what they take. Further, it is quite expensive to try to fight it). Then they get to buy more military surplus toys.

When they stop being military police and start protecting the people, things may change. Police have now become just more of the bad guys, but with badges. They're legal gangs, lying, stealing, quite rude, and I do not see things changing.

Everyone I know has a horror story of interaction with the police. (back in the day, police were the good guys - but those days are long gone, and now its endemic to the profession.)

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[–] BraneS2 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

QUESTION: When is the last time any of you got let off with just a warning? Anyone? Anyone?

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[–] FreshieD 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I have, but I'm also clean-cut, white, respectful, no lounger a "youth", and I drive a nicer car.

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[–] X____sign_here____ 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

I don't engage in activity that requires a warning. Why would I?

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[–] Lucumon 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

You haven't seen "The Wire", have you?

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