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[–] boredblackguy ago 

It is relevant. Because do you know how hard it is to converse in a subverse when you get spammed with "NIGGER FAGGOT". For free speech to exist there has to be a limit to some peoples free speech that use up to much band width.

Shouting people down and generally trying to over talk them while free speech is infringing on someone elses free speech.

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[–] absurdlyobfuscated ago 

I understand your point and agree to an extent, but I also see the difference between something that hinders the free exchange of ideas and something that shuts down certain types of exchanges entirely. Someone who shouts you down or trolls you doesn't have any more power than you do, as obnoxious as they are, but the one who controls the forum can act as the arbiter of all speech and has the potential to shut down not just trolls but anything deemed undesirable. A troll affects the sound of your voice but can't hurt your fundamental right or stop you from speaking; a moderator can do exactly that. It's important to understand what is an absolute fundamental right and how that's separate from a desired outcome - and how you can achieve that outcome with tools at your disposal, by blocking and filtering and ignoring on a personal level, etc.

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[–] boredblackguy ago 

I understand the premise of what your saying but when people do these things with the intention of shutting down other peoples speech (lets face it what other reason is there, it isn't even insulting it's just obnoxious) they have forgone their own right to free speech.

An analogy that magnifies the scenario. Everyone has the right to live in the sense they shouldn't be directly killed. However imo as soon as you kill someone you waive the right to live. If you don't want other people to have it then neither should you.

If overt racists cannot hold themselves back from trying to censor and stop speech then they shouldn't be annoyed when they are themselves censored.

Lets bring this online discussion to an irl conversation. I am talking to you about random stuff and then some other 3rd person comes over and just starts shouting "nigger faggot" It is not informational, he has no reason to do so other than him wanting to censor me. He no longer deserves a right to free speech and thus would be removed by police/arbitrators.